Okay, I like to have good natured jibes at some of the Big East schools... (hey, I'll admit it, if USM could get in there, while Louisville was there, I'd be a happy camper.).. but I usually stay off limits when it comes to the fans.
But now... oh, you guys have really opened the flood gates, particularly those of you at the ncaabbs boards... because I'm about to blast some schools fans (although I know of one cool Louisville fan on BigGoldNation's message board.).
I'm gonna have to paraphrase here, as I don't have the exact quotes to recopy, so I may get a few things here or there wrong.
I can understand the use of sarcasm and cynicism... but you BE fans truly do take the cake when it comes to elitism.
There was a long going discussion at one point, of "If the BE is raided, who do we bring in to keep the conference up?". Now let's not forget that the BE hasn't lost their AQ status.. and with the teams that were on the 'threat list" (Pitt, Rutgers, UConn and Syracuse...) would you guys explain to me why you would still lose your status? The reason I ask is that Syracuse hasn't been a football threat in forever... The other three, okay, they're flirting with the 30's and 40's repeatedly.
So you bring in a UCF, ECU.. fine .. Memphis? Not so much (80's to 100's.. okay, maybe a good substitue for Syracuse).
One of the 'reasonable' arguments against USM (who I had been hoping for AQ promotion, but not to the Big East as you'll see.) was their markets... (to me, the more reasonable argument against USM was geography... we're even a distance from UCF and USF (if UCF is selected). We'd be the island university.
but the vitiriol from the fans was "You're not worthy of consideration! What have you done! You'd be valued lower than Temple" (the temple who was ranked 108th as of three years ago, and had a high of 80 ranking last year.). Well, okay, we're not "good enough for you guys in the Big East..."
This vitriol was coming from candidates for the Big East as well as certain fans of BE teams (In particularly the Appalachian guys.. Lville and WV).
Then the rumour comes out that now the Big-12 is now going to be looking to replace their loss teams. And the one key statement that came out was .. "We're not looking to expand in current states"; So Houston, TCU, Rice, etc. are outta luck... even though I think a few texas teams would be good add-ons, particulary Houston and TCU. But I can understand why the B12 doesn't want already existing state teams.
But i'm getting sidetracked...
Guess who's now saying they should be considered for the Big-12 expansion? Oh wait, that couldn't be fans of Memphis, Lville, WV, etc.? Why yes, yes it could be! It appears that they all want to move on to "greener" pastures... wait.. wait the Big East (even without those four (PLUS ECU and UCF) aren't good enough for you guys? But apparently USM isn't even good enough for that conference... talk about a double slam.
So I really really want to point something out to the Big-East and the "want to be big easterners'...
There's something you should notice about the Big-12 universities (including the soon to be "Ex-B12 univerisities".)
Texas, TexA&M, TTech, Ok, OkSt, Neb, Missouri, IaSt, Kansas, KState, Colorado, Baylor.
Other than Baylor does anyone notice what kind of universities we have? State flagship universities... So let's take a look at some of the barb-throwers.
Memphis.. uhm... Tennessee flagship ? Nope. that'd be Tennessee
(and no, Memphis, noting that your originall school name of "Memphis State University" does not make you an actual state flagship... it just makes us wonder about your geography skills.)
Louisville.. uhm... Kentucky flagship? Nope.. that'd be Kentucky
W. Virg... okay, I'll give you WV.
Cincinnati??? Nope... that'd be Ohio State .
So outside of West Virginia... that's strike one... Does that mean that USM is at an advantage? Of course not.. but it feels good to say... Hey guys, this time, you dont' look like you're "good enough" for a conference... so just keep dreamin' kids!
Is it spiteful? Probably... but you know what? After reading all the vitriol you guys threw at my school.. it feels good to say "You're just not good enoughj" Besides, I thought the Big East was a very good thing, and would be just _fine_ with decent replacement candidates? (okay, now watch the big-12 prove me wrong, and I'll have to eat a LOT of crow by offering Memphis a slot...)